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california rick

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...Bill Clinton is pretty good at sabotaging Obama’s strategy.

He did so last week when he went on television and said Mitt Romney had a “sterling” record while running Bain Capital.

The Obama message is exactly the opposite. The Obama campaign had just run a TV ad claiming that working Americans had been harmed by Bain Capital and included one man saying Bain had been a “vampire” that “sucked the blood out of us.”

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Second, there is the little matter of the 2008 Democratic presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton was the early favorite, but she lost to Barack Obama and Bill Clinton helped her lose.

He made one of the biggest strategic mistakes of her entire campaign: He insisted she seriously compete in South Carolina. Hillary’s staff wanted to spend its time and resources elsewhere, judging that South Carolina, with its large black electorate, was unwinnable

Read more at Politico.com

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Black Butterfly

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I am sure the Clinton's are still a little bitter by Hillary's defeat but at the end of the day, they will support the President.

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california rick

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Hillary may, Bill even sabotaged Hillary's efforts by insisting on campaigning in South Carolina. Bill is a wee bit wiley for my tastes.

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Black Butterfly

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It all boils down to ego.

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california rick

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Exactly. If you can block others from being the "Best President" in the past 50 years...

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Black Butterfly

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And what would they gain from this, nothing! Last night they were in NYC together so hopefully this has been settled for now.

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I don't think Clinton's statement hurts at all. Bain Capital was all about investing in companies that were in trouble and either putting together mergers, or dismantling the companies. Both of those take resources and knowledge that some companies don't have. It's why they sell to the Bain's of this world.

However, there are a lot of people that don't like the Bain's of this world. They view them the same way they view the big Wall Street investment houses. Cold-hearted, only thinking about the bottom line.

For those people that hate Wall Street and want Wall Street and the Bain's of this world to care about them as individuals, Obama's ad about Bain will work just fine.

Different ads for different people. Because individuals care about different things.

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Checker

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There could have been another strategy that we don't know about, with Clinton endorsing Mittens.

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Beach Baby

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I agree Checker. You have to hit on all fronts.

There are Republicans that view the Birthers as a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists. And then there are those that view the Birthers as truth tellers.

You have to go after all the differing points of views and worries.

In this case - for some Bain is the devil. And the fact that Romney ran it and people lost their jobs - that counts with them.

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Black Butterfly

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Ladies, I am becoming a little more curious about Clinton's strategy??? What's going on?

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I'm not a democrat but was still shocked at the primary cheating that took place in 2008. The democrat primaries in Texas are damming. Hillary has a right to be angry. Every citazen who cares about fair elections are angry with her even if not a supporter of hers.   I watched this years ago and just watched it again - still shocking.

http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/

Also, Gingrinch and Santorum did not get enough signatures to be on some state PRIMARY ballots and played by the rules and lost delegates because they could not compete.   Obama's supporters in Indiana just went to jail after being convicted faking signatures to get enough signatures to get Obama on the Indiana PRIMARY ballot.   Without those fraudulent signatures, Obama's name should NOT have been on the Indiana PRIMARY ballot and Hillary would have won.

Hillary AND Bill Clinton have at least 2 reason's above to be pissed off at Obama for cheating. I think she took the Sec of State job to get foreign experience which is what SEXIST press attacked Hillary ( & Sarah Palin) on for lacking while forgiving Obama for NOT having any either.   Hillary probably never forgave that UNFAIRNESS.   Also, Obama's people called Bill Clinton racist as well as attacked several of Hillary's primary supporters of being racist.

I could list more insults that the Obama's did to the Clintons but the list is too long.   Needless to say, it is not surprising Bill Clinton is undermining Obama. Hillary is also but by silently by NOT stumping for Obama like Sec of State Rice did for Bush. Instead, Hillary is sitting it out.

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Black Butterfly

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ROTFL, I haven't heard about the cheating allegations and I am doubtful about them (even reading internet pieces isn't proof these days and we both know this). I didn't even hear Hillary make much about it. I recall the issue in Michigan though. And please, there should never be any comparision between Hillary & Palin except they are both females. I know you mean well but there's nothing to compare.

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Watch the DEMOCRAT produced video. It was filmed during the ACTUAL Texas primary! These are democrats.

http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/

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4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008 presidential race

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/02/4-indiana-dems-charged-with-election-fraud-in-2008/#ixzz1qzJKfcoE

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ROTFL

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NAACP Executive Sentence to 10 Years in Prison for Voting for Obama 10 Times in 2008

While NAACP President Benjamin Jealous lashed out at new state laws requiring photo ID for voting, an NAACP executive sits in prison, sentenced for carrying out a massive voter fraud scheme.

In April 2011, a Tunica County, Miss., jury convicted NAACP official
Lessadolla Sowers on 10 counts of fraudulently casting absentee ballots.

Sowers received a five-year prison term for each of the 10 counts…..

“This crime cuts against the fabric of our free society,” Judge Webster said.

Sowers was found guilty of voting in the names of Carrie Collins,
Walter Howard, Sheena Shelton, Alberta Pickett, Draper Cotton and Eddie
Davis.

She was also convicted of voting in the names of four dead persons: James L. Young, Dora Price, Dorothy Harris, and David Ross.

In the trial, forensic scientist Bo Scales testified that Sowers’s
DNA was found on the inner seals of five envelopes containing absentee
ballots.

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4 Wake County, North Carolina Democrats have Admitted to Voting for Obama TWICE Each in 2008

            FOUR Wake County, North Carolina, Democrats have admitted to voter fraud charges, according to local news reports.

            Kierra Fontae Leache, Shelia Romona Hodges
and Brandon Earl Mclean each admitted to casting two ballots in recent
elections. Local reports indicate all three voted for President Barack
Obama twice in 2008.

            According to ABC News Channel 11 in Raleigh-Durham, authorities have placed the three on $10,000 bonds.

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ROTFL

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Indiana Democratic Party Head Resigns as Fraud Probe Heats Up over Obama

Fox News 10/2011

10/18/2011:
Indiana Democratic Chairman Dan Parker on Monday evening confirmed the
resignation of Butch Morgan, Democratic chairman for St. Joseph County
and the Second Congressional District.

Fox News 12/12/11: The chairman of the St. Joseph County Democratic Party has resigned amid a scandal that reveals hundreds of signatures on petitions for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to appear on the state’s 2008 primary ballot were faked.

Dan Parker, who served for seven years, did not cite the
scandal as a reason for his decision. But the uproar over possible fraud
in a race for the White Househas already claimed the job of one county Democratic Chairman, who sources say was forced out because of the allegations.

The alleged forgeries have raised the question whether the Obama campaign
actually filed the necessary number of signatures, 500 from the county,
to get on the state’s primary ballot. The 534 signatures that were
certified to place Obama’s name in contention, were never challenged.
704 signatures were certified for Clinton, according to state elections
officials. An estimated 150 of the signatures on both petitions may be
fakes, leaving open the possibility that, in at least President Obama’s
case, the number of legal signatures that were required to get on the
ballot was not reached.

Several voters told Fox News that they never signed nor gave their names that appeared on the Obama petitions.

“It’s scary,” Charity Rorie said, adding that her signature and name, and those of her husband, were faked.

“It’s shocking … it’s definitely is illegal.”

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ROTFL

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I could fill this blog with a lot more examples of 2008 fraudulent in the Democrat Primary AND in the election but my point is made. Didn't NBC mention these cases?

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Black Butterfly

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Voter and election fraud is probably always going to be part of our process unfortunately. And, anyone is silly to just think it happens on the left. Just this week we had the robo calls in Wisconsin and someone is probably going to be convicted of that. Overall, our election process isn't about a few that commit voter, registration, or election fraud, it is about the vast vast majority who cast their vote legally. The GOP is trying to make more of this than it is. They have been really good at working to make this an issue to justify voter suppression. And please don't think voter fraud is just about someone casting more than 1 asbentee ballot, we have people of position of power making decision on votes and which ones count that can determine the outcome of big elections, such as Bush v Gore....thanks to Kathleen Harris.

The GOP should really be ashamed.

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The topic was trying to explain Bill Clinton "undermining Obama" actions. The voter fraud in the democrat primary both in voting on and getting signatures on the primary ballot to get Obama's name on the democrat ballot and racist accusations, etc etc ect HELPS explain Clinton's actions. The only reason he is even campaigning for Obama AT ALL is because Bill has political hope for Hillary AND Chelsea!!

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Black Butterfly

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Again ROTFL, I think is is senseless to believe that only an Obama supporter (and in what I read about the lady for Tunica MS), it wasn't revealed who she actually voted for, would do this. Is that logical to you??? It can't be!

I am not sure we can catch all of these onesie's twosies but we can do something about this happening on a large more impacting scale with the GOP tactics of telling voters to stay home, lying in robo calls, putting major efforts in supressing the votes. Things like that are more impacting than a women submitting 10 votes in Mississippi! Bottom line, MS is going to be Republican for the next 100 years anyway.

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ROTFL

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How is a cat fight between the Clintons and Obamas a GOP issue? Sure they may talk about it - EVERYONE IS - but they are not the cause of it.

Next thing - blame Bush. Good grief.

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Black Butterfly

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Clearly we are talking about two things and you are surely aware of this. In this discussion of what GOP hopes become the Obamas vs Clintons, you referenced voter fraud so I addressed that issue in general. Put your Bush victim card back in your wallet :)

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Ca Rick

Clinton sabataging Obama

I was addressing WHY Clinton was doing it.

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ROTFL

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Oh Oh - The left is playing the "OLD SENILE" card on Bill Clinton like they did John McCain. LOL LOL LOL

Clinton’s team throwing him under Obama’s bus?

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/07/clintons-team-throwing-him-under-obamas-bus/

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The left eating their own. Corey Booker FIRED from NBC. Bill Clinton had better watch out.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/06/06/NBC-Dumps-Corey-Booker

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Black Butterfly

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Ah ROTFL......you can do much better :)

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Oh Oh - The left is playing the "OLD SENILE" card on Bill Clinton like they did John McCain. LOL LOL LOL

Clinton’s team throwing him under Obama’s bus?

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