http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes News & Opinion - Grated Fresh Daily en-US Sun, 19 May 2013 19:44:51 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://gratewire.com/search.php http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-43033 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 05:28:07 +0000 omiaqt 43033@http://gratewire.com/ <p> <a href="http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img alt="Apology" src="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_6_6.gif" /></a>  <span style="font-family: Verdana; color: black;">Thank-you for the admonishment...and I promise it won't happen again...  :-)</span> <span style="font-family: Verdana; color: black;"> </span> <a href="http://www.smileycentral.com/dl/index.jhtml?partner=ZSzeb095_&amp;utm_id=7923" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.smileycentral.com/sig.jsp?pc=ZSzeb095&amp;pp=" /></a></p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-43032 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 05:13:39 +0000 SqueekyFromm 43032@http://gratewire.com/ <p>OMIAQT:</p> <p>"What happens to an economy...when a country is unable to borrow the<br /> money it needs to operate, and simply prints money to cover the short<br /> fall...say several trillion dollars?   BTW...add $800 or so billion in<br /> interest payments on that national debt?  Where do you thing that<br /> country will end up?" </p> <p>Now stop that kind of stuff!!! Right now!!! That kind of question is taking away from the seriousness of somebody photo-shopping a monkey face onto the president!!!</p> <p>(Plus, that kind of question might move the focus onto Obama's failures, and we just can't have that kind of thing going on. It simply isn't done!!!)</p> <p>Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-43027 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 04:57:31 +0000 omiaqt 43027@http://gratewire.com/ <p>let me ask you this question: What happens to an economy...when a country is unable to borrow the money it needs to operate, and simply prints money to cover the short fall...say several trillion dollars?   BTW...add $800 or so billion in interest payments on that national debt?  Where do you think that country will end up? </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-43019 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 04:04:17 +0000 Obot 50549535 43019@http://gratewire.com/ <p>And James Buchanan was the worst President. Bush was certainly trying to be worst, but the competition was just too much for him.</p> <p> </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-43018 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 04:02:06 +0000 Obot 50549535 43018@http://gratewire.com/ <p>qt -- So, if I get the scenario here, you're predicting 1) huge inflation before Nov 2012, followed by 2) a Republican in the White House.</p> <p>It is theoretically conceivable that the GOP could cause massive inflation by using their majority in the House to force the US to default on its debt. First, I doubt the GOP will do that. Second, I seriously doubt they could do that and avoid the political consequences. So, although economic disaster would greatly harm the President's chances of re-election, a disaster plainly engineered by the GOP wouldn't help them any either.</p> <p>On the other hand, there are certainly ways the economy could go bad by next year without the GOP's help. And if so, a win by the GOP candidate would become much more likely.</p> <p>Worth noting that Trump has promised to run as an independent when he doesn't get nominated by the GOP. Frankly, I think he's lying. But if he did, that would pretty much guarantee the President's re-election, even if the economy does take a turn for the worse.</p> <p> </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-43017 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 03:59:11 +0000 Beach Baby 43017@http://gratewire.com/ <p>To make an important point - Bush was the worst President in 235 years (or ever).</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-43016 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 03:46:49 +0000 omiaqt 43016@http://gratewire.com/ <p>  </p> <p><span style="font-family: Verdana; color: black;">If President Bush was the worst President in 20 years...than obama must be a close second, as he has continued every policy enacted by President Bush....plus destroying the housing market and the general economy by adding $4 plus trillion in debt. What you libs never take into consideration is the coming inflation bomb, that will start hitting before the next election.  And that my friend is why your obama will lose re-election big time!!  </span></p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-43003 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 02:19:08 +0000 Black Lion 43003@http://gratewire.com/ <p>BB, agreed...racism is wrong, no matter who is doing it.  Just like the e-mails regarding Bush as a monkey was wrong.  Bush was the worst President of the last 20 years, but it was about him as a person and not about his race nor his family....The virtrol against President Obama includes attacks on his wife, kids, and his parents...Definately disgusting....</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-42999 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 22:50:34 +0000 Beach Baby 42999@http://gratewire.com/ <p>The fact that the Frighties don't come on here and say - it is racism - and not acceptable - speaks volumes about why this woman and the entire Tea Party have the reputation they do.</p> <p>Sad - backwards - wrong.</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-42993 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:47:14 +0000 rikker 42993@http://gratewire.com/ <p>"So you think it was ok when your libs depicted President Bush as a monkey...black lion/rikker, or will you both remain silent???"</p> <p> </p> <p>Not me.     I found the depictions of Bush to be distasteful.      And I found maltreatment of his wife and daughters to be out of bounds.    I never hated George Bush.    My main criticisms of him stem from the outlandish incursions of the Patriot Act, which Obama continues.</p> <p>However distasteful those depictions were, they were hardly intended as racist.    The monkey depictions of Obama ARE intended as racist.     And your ham-handed attempts to say they aren't racist are hilarious.</p> <p>The only people who respond to the race card are racists.</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-42983 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 18:48:11 +0000 cjercoop 42983@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Any of you ever watched "Dora", with your children, and noticed the big eared monkey, there is a certain resemblance to some one, who is in political office, today?</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-42974 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:56:12 +0000 St. Paulie Girl 42974@http://gratewire.com/ <p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Remember Nick, according to the race expert SPG, President Obama is not "Black"....You don't want her to think that he has confused you also....</span></p> <p>Trust me, you don't need to be an expert to know what race Obama is.  Having just the absolute basic cognitive skills will allow for you to figure it out. </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-42973 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:53:08 +0000 Nick_A 42973@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Yes, it has been reported that during certain hours of the night the new messiah adopts a heavenly glow where he radiates all colors including white light. if that is the case he must be considered muti-color or full of color. Not having a term for "full of color" it has been decided tht we should just say Obama is full of it. this leaves the problem of color up to artistic interpretation.</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-42972 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:47:02 +0000 Black Lion 42972@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Remember Nick, according to the race expert SPG, President Obama is not "Black"....You don't want her to think that he has confused you also....</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-42970 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:36:38 +0000 Nick_A 42970@http://gratewire.com/ <p>The way things are going, Obama's gonna be the only black guy dressed in white face.</p> <p>Oh Lord, where did we go wrong? :)</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-42968 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:35:07 +0000 omiaqt 42968@http://gratewire.com/ <p>So you think it was ok when your libs depicted President Bush as a monkey...black lion/rikker, or will you both remain silent???</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-42965 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:28:38 +0000 SqueekyFromm 42965@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Bumpy:</p> <p>Your youtube thingy isn't working. Have you tried when you post the linky thingy, just leaving off the stuff after the little after the "&amp;", and the "&amp;", too???</p> <p>Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes/page/2#post-42964 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:28:33 +0000 St. Paulie Girl 42964@http://gratewire.com/ <p><span style="color: #0000ff;">rikker</span></p> <p><span style="color: #0000ff;">See?   I love that!!</span></p> <p>See what?  That Obama has connived you into thinking that he's black?  I'm surprised that you actually allowed Obama to insult your intelligence. </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42962 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:26:11 +0000 Bumpy 42962@http://gratewire.com/ <p>lol.</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42961 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:20:25 +0000 rikker 42961@http://gratewire.com/ <p>SPG:  "The president isn't BLACK - He's mulatto, mixed, bi-racial . . . . or whatever, but he's not BLACK. " </p> <p>See?   I love that!!</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42960 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:20:10 +0000 Nick_A 42960@http://gratewire.com/ <p>omiaqt, haven't you learned yet that what you've posted is politically correct. Why should anyone want to condemn it?</p> <p> </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42959 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:18:34 +0000 St. Paulie Girl 42959@http://gratewire.com/ <p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I'm not asking you to care.    I'm asking you to continue to whine about having a black president.</span> </p> <p>Obama isn't BLACK - He's mulatto, mixed, bi-racial . . . . or whatever, but he's not BLACK. </p> <p>(YAWN)</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42958 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:18:10 +0000 Bumpy 42958@http://gratewire.com/ <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXEKi4HS6GY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXEKi4HS6GY</a></p> <p> </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42957 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:16:31 +0000 omiaqt 42957@http://gratewire.com/ <p>do you condone this...black lion????</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dY9BH0lJUg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dY9BH0lJUg</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qVS4hUkiyk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qVS4hUkiyk</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJKK6oSAXXk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJKK6oSAXXk</a></p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42956 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:14:45 +0000 rikker 42956@http://gratewire.com/ <p>SPG:   "Well rikker - you can take your racism tears and drown in them for all I care."</p> <p>I'm not asking you to care.    I'm asking you to continue to whine about having a black president.</p> <p>I enjoy listening to you whine.</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42953 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:10:00 +0000 SqueekyFromm 42953@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Black Lion:</p> <p>Like I said out in California:</p> <p>From the <strong>HISTRIONIC Channel</strong>: <strong>The Planets Most <em>Dangerous</em> Humans!!!</strong></p> <p>1. Nazi Germans</p> <p>2. Sexual Predators</p> <p>3. The KKK</p> <p>4. People Who Forward Monkey Pictures on the Internet</p> <p>So yeah, this isn't nothing but a chance for Liberals/Obotski to vent their spleens because they can't vent them at the problems we have because most of them have been caused or worsened by Obama: The economy, inflation, foreclosuregate, Obamacare, gitmo, 3 wars, gasoline prices, unemployment, no real Wall Street reform, the deficit, no stopping the Bush tax cuts, 'sacrifices" by poor and middle class. . .etc.etc.</p> <p>Obama couldn't even get a budget passed when he had control of the House and Senate. Soooo, yeah, the liberals and Obotski need something to holler about. (Gee, why not just dump Obama and go with Hillary in 2012???)</p> <p>Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter</p> <p> </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42952 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:05:48 +0000 St. Paulie Girl 42952@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Well rikker - you can take your racism tears and drown in them for all I care.</p> <p><em>ALL</em> Americans got the memo that the "R" word was offensive long before "White" people got the memo that the "N" word was offensive. </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42950 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:04:18 +0000 rikker 42950@http://gratewire.com/ <p>" Do you have any idea how offensive that word is to people who have mentally handicapped family members?  Any idea at all?  Or is it that you just don't give a shit about other people being offended?"</p> <p>It's the latter.    You ARE retards.    In fact, calling you "retards" is an INSULT to retards.</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42949 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:03:17 +0000 Nick_A 42949@http://gratewire.com/ <p><div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;"> </span></div><br /> <div>Hoodie </div><br /> <div></p> <p><em>Nick,</em></p> <p><em>...in an increasingly literate, cosmopolitan world. </em>I must have meant in an increasingly secular progressive world, huh? ;-)</p> <p>Theoretically there could be a difference but practically, because of how it is coming about, they are basically the same. They are both expressions of "The Great Beast" that alternately heals and kills depending upon whims arising from changing external conditions.</p> <p>Racism will always be a part of the Beast. The real fools are the ones ignorant that they are just part of the Beast. The result is one idiot calling another idiot, an idiot while feeling self justified through this idiocy.</p> <p>What really concerns me is how many conservatives will be attracted to Ayn Rand as an expression of capitalism in this literate cosmopolitan world of yours through the movie Atlas Shrugged.</p> <p>Somewhere on the Internet where people are concerned I will initiate a thread on Ayn Rand vs. Simone Weil. Hopefully the potential for capitalism in reltin to Ameriocan ideals could be put into a more meaningful perspective.</p> <p></div> </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42947 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:01:01 +0000 St. Paulie Girl 42947@http://gratewire.com/ <p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oh, it's OFFENSIVE now.     You as much as admitted you grew up on this stuff ... when you were young.    But NOW it's offensive?</span> </p> <p>All I did was throw you a bone.</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42946 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:59:39 +0000 St. Paulie Girl 42946@http://gratewire.com/ <p>rikker - You are no better than the "racist, bigot" you're complaining about in the above article.  How a person can use the "R" word and think nothing of it is beyond me.  Do you have any idea how offensive that word is to people who have mentally handicapped family members?  Any idea at all?  Or is it that you just don't give a shit about other people being offended?  After seeing you use that word over &amp; over again, do you really think anyone cares whether or not you get offended by certain words?  You think far too highly of yourself.</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42945 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:57:13 +0000 rikker 42945@http://gratewire.com/ <p>"Black Lion - If she is a racist and a bigot, we probably could have arrived at that same conclusion without posting the offensive material all over the forum." Oh, it's OFFENSIVE now.     You as much as admitted you grew up on this stuff <strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">... </span></strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="color: #000000;">when </span></span>you were young.    But NOW it's offensive? </p> <p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>{This post has been edited to adhere to Gatewire.com guidelines.  REASON:  No direct personal attacks on other posters.  OP chose not to edit post}</strong></span> </p> <p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Logan, Moderator</strong></span></p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42944 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:54:24 +0000 St. Paulie Girl 42944@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Black Lion - If she is a racist and a bigot, we probably could have arrived at that same conclusion without posting the offensive material all over the forum.  Just the article needed to be posted to get the point across -  and just ONCE would have been sufficient. </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42943 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:52:49 +0000 rikker 42943@http://gratewire.com/ <p>"Maybe that's why you're not getting the reaction you're looking for from the republicans.  You keep insisting that the GOP is nothing but <em>older</em>, (white) people - 'older' being the operative word here.  We were taught differently than you younger liberal folks."</p> <p>We realize you're less intelligent than us.     We just wonder why you insist upon dragging the rest of us into retard-land with you.</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42942 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:49:16 +0000 Black Lion 42942@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Now it is the infamous "blame the victim" defense....First Squeekers tries to twist the facts to make it seem like people are making stuff up...Now it is that the left is "blowing things out of proportion"...Which is totally not the case.  No one made this GOP hag send this e-mail...She made the concious decision to do it....And this was her second time doing something like this....No one makes someone like this send out such demeaning e-mails...This is who she is....If she is not a racist and a bigot then she is doing a great job acting like one....</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42941 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:44:54 +0000 St. Paulie Girl 42941@http://gratewire.com/ <p>I wonder how offended some of you really are over these things . . . what is this, the 3rd thread since yesterday flaunting the "racist" email?</p> <p>I was always taught that you let offensive things bury themselves - you don't showcase them out on center stage and then cry "How dare <em>them</em>".</p> <p>Maybe that's why you're not getting the reaction you're looking for from the republicans.  You keep insisting that the GOP is nothing but <em>older</em>, (white) people - 'older' being the operative word here.  We were taught differently than you younger liberal folks.     </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42939 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:42:47 +0000 Black Lion 42939@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Rikker, you won't...My point with the so called "science" regarding the justification of being racist in regards to the comparisons of Blacks to apes and other similar animals is to show the inherent racism....The funny thing is that the righties will never condem this kind of rhetoric because on some level they don't outwardly reject it....Or they attempt to defend it by saying that it is not really racist, or they have "Black" friends, or they did it to Bush and no one did anything...</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42938 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:41:19 +0000 SqueekyFromm 42938@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Black Lion:</p> <p>Those are very interesting pictures. I keep a copy of The Races of Men (1851) on my bedside table, as do most white people I know. (NOT!!!)</p> <p>You see, this is where you leave Planet Earth and light on Planet Black Lion. No regular human being out there goes through all this kind of stuff before they forward a funny picture to somebody. If people did, nothing would ever get done on Planet earth. People just forward funny pictures.</p> <p>You are the same way with all the Obama law court stuff. Frankly, most people I know could care less about the court stuff, and it all comes down to, "Did the rascal cough it up yet or not???"</p> <p>Sooo, please continue to bust your a$$ trying to prove your point to regular Americans with legal decisions and anthropological treatises. Just don't be surprised if you don't get far.</p> <p>Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42937 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:33:00 +0000 rikker 42937@http://gratewire.com/ <p>BL,</p> <p>Undoubtedly, the inferences in those Republican emails referred to the "science" you mentioned.   I'd never actually read the racial justifications presented therein, but I'd heard about them.</p> <p>What's interesting, I think, in the present day is that NONE OF THE REPUG POSTERS HERE CONDEMN THE RACIST EMAILS.    Rather, like Squeeky, they seek to explain and justify them.</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42936 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:32:06 +0000 Bumpy 42936@http://gratewire.com/ <p>call it what you want to, squeekers.</p> <p>if you want p.c..........tell it to somebody else. the tea party has over, over AND OVER again shown they have no problem with bigots and racism.</p> <p>so, in my opinion, that makes THEM a bunch of bigots !!!</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42935 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:27:41 +0000 SqueekyFromm 42935@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Bumpy:</p> <p>"I don't know why any of you find any of  this surprising. I don't."</p> <p>Confirmation Bias??? I expect the TP/GOP to be racists, so I look for stuff to confirm my bias.</p> <p>Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42934 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:26:28 +0000 Black Lion 42934@http://gratewire.com/ <p><h2><a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/18/whites-blacks-apes-in-the-great-chain-of-being/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Whites, Blacks, and Apes in the Great Chain of Being</a></h2><br /> <div>by <a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/author/lisa/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Lisa Wade</a>, Jun 18, 2008, at 12:47 am </div><br /> <div></p> <p><a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/ape-vs-man-6.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/race-history-ota-benga-11.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/race-social-construction-1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/race-history-ota-benga-2.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/race-history-ota-benga-1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/race-history-great-chain-of-being.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/ape-vs-man-11.gif" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>Inspired by the comments on our <a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/16/obama-sock-monkey-toy/" target="_self" rel="nofollow">Obama Sock Monkey post</a> and the impassioned plea there by MissCegenation to remember our history, I offer this set of images.  (I’m sorry not to provide a full set of links.  I’ve collected them over the years for my Race and Ethnicity class.  But a lot of the images and information came from <a href="http://www.strangescience.net/sthom1.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here</a>.)</p> <p>Please feel free to clarify or correct my very broad description of many centuries of thought.</p> <p>The predominant colonial theory of race was the great chain of being… the idea that human races could be lined up from most superior to most inferior.  That is, God, white people, and then an arrangement of non-white people, with blacks at the bottom.  Depicted here in <a href="http://www.stanford.edu/class/engl174b/chain.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this image</a> from 1579, originally published in Rhetorica Christiana by Didacus Valades:</p> <p>This next image is a drawing that appeared in Charles White’s <em>An Account of the Regular Gradation in Man, and in Different Animals and Vegetables</em> (1799).<em> </em>On the bottom of the image (but the top of the chain) are types of Europeans, Romans, and Greeks.  On the top (but the bottom of the chain) are “Asiatics,” “American Savages,” and “Negros.”  White wrote: “In whatever respect the African differs from the European, the particularity brings him nearer to the ape.”</p> <p><div>Nearly 70 years later, in 1868, Ernst Haeckel’s <em>Natürliche Schöpfungsgeschichte</em> was published.  in the book, this image appeared (his perfect person, by the way, was German, not Greek):</div><br /> <div style="text-align: center;"><img height="420" src="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/race-history-great-chain-of-being-1868.jpg" width="255" /></div><br /> <div>In this image, we see a depiction of the great chain of being with <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Michelangelo’s sculpture of David</span> Apollo Belvedere at the top (the most perfect human), a black person below, and an ape below him.</div><br /> <div><a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/race-history-great-chain-of-being-1868.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a></div></p> <p><span class="entry"> </span></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><img height="387" src="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/ape-vs-man-6.png" width="237" /></p> <p>Notice that there seems to be some confusion over where the chain ends.  Indeed, there was a lot of discussion as to where to draw the line.  Are apes human?  Are blacks?  Carolus Linneaus, that famous guy who developed the classification system for living things, wasn’t sure.  In his book <em>Systema Naturae</em> (1758), he published this picture, puzzling over whether the things that separating apes from humans were significant.</p> <p style="text-align: center;"><img height="296" src="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/ape-vs-man-11.gif" width="210" /></p> <p style="text-align: left;">In this picture (also appearing in White 1799) are depictions of apes in human-like positions (walking, using a cane).  Notice also the way in which the central figure is feminized (long hair, passive demeanor, feminized body) so as to make her seem more human.</p> <p style="text-align: center;"><img height="368" src="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/ape-vs-man-4.jpg" width="263" /></p> <p>Here we have a chimpanzee depicted drinking a cup of tea.  This is Madame Chimpanzee.  She was a travelling attraction showing how human chimps could be.</p> <p style="text-align: center;"><img height="372" src="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/race-social-construction-1.jpg" width="287" /></p> <p>In any case, while they argued about where to draw the line, what was clear to intellectuals of the day was that apes and blacks were very similar.  In this picture, from a book by Robert Knox called <em>The Races of Men</em> (1851),<em> </em>the slant of the brow is used to draw connections between the “Negro” and the “Oran Outan” and differences between those two and the “European.”<a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/ape-vs-man-3.gif" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/ape-vs-man-2.gif" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><img height="175" src="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/06/ape-vs-man-3.gif" width="280" /></p> <p>The practice of depicting the races hierarchically occurred as late as the early 1900s as we showed in <a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/01/30/racial-categories-as-historical-artifact/" target="_self" rel="nofollow">a previous post</a>.</p> <p><a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/18/whites-blacks-apes-in-the-great-chain-of-being/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2008/06/18/whites-blacks-apes-in-the-great-chain-of-being/</a></p> <p></div> </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42933 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:23:32 +0000 Bumpy 42933@http://gratewire.com/ <p><div></p> <p>I don't know why any of you find any of  this surprising.  </p> <p>I don't.</p> <p>///////////////////</p> <p>me neither.</p> <p>anybody that expects any differently from the t party or is surprised about this, is either slow or hasn't been paying attention to them for the past two years.</p> <p></div> </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42931 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:21:10 +0000 rikker 42931@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Subtle?   </p> <p>Those emails have all of subtlety of a Rush Limbaugh prayer.</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42930 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:19:58 +0000 Black Lion 42930@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Rikker, it is not a suprise...It is usually more of a surprise when they are not caught....</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42929 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:18:56 +0000 Black Lion 42929@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Squeekers, changing the subject again?  The fact was that you pretended to not understand why the ape/monkey comparisons to African Americans would be considered offensive or racist...It was then showed to you that this has been a common "put down" or attack on African Americans for decades and then you claim to finally "understand"....And then you bring this back to the other tread regarding the demeaning address of Dr. Fukino....Which has nothing to do with the fact that the e-mail was demeaning and disgusting and a subtle attack on African Americans....</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42928 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:16:55 +0000 rikker 42928@http://gratewire.com/ <p>I don't know why any of you find any of  this surprising.  </p> <p>I don't.</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42927 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:13:42 +0000 Bumpy 42927@http://gratewire.com/ <p>no need to keep going around and around with this. </p> <p>the t party member is a BIGOT and piece of chit !!!!</p> <p>this isn't the first time she got busted for her racism. anybody that makes lame excuses for her or her email is a bigot and racist also !!!!</p> <p> </p> <p>SHE'S A RACIST PIECE OF CR' AP...............END OF STORY !!!</p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42926 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:07:42 +0000 SqueekyFromm 42926@http://gratewire.com/ <p>Black Lion:</p> <p>You are correct. The person who forwarded the email should have performed an in depth research project into the subject matter at hand, including but not limited to, ape, monkeys, differences between apes and monkeys, sexual reproduction, portrayals of humans as monkeys, portrayals of monkeys as humans,. . . </p> <p>Darn, even Jane Goodall would have been lost here.</p> <p>Sooo, since you are such a student of stuff, how about you spend some time on that little question you have about me and Frujinko. If you expect of the person here, then I expect of you.</p> <p>Be talking to you in about 6 years, after you do the research, OK???</p> <p>Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter</p> <p> </p> http://gratewire.com/topic/racist-orange-county-republican-email-president-obama-and-his-parents-are-apes#post-42922 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:57:29 +0000 Black Lion 42922@http://gratewire.com/ <p><h1><a href="http://scienceblog.com/cms/americans-still-linking-blacks-apes-15428.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Americans still linking blacks to apes</a></h1></p> <p>Crude historical depictions of African Americans as ape-like may have disappeared from mainstream U.S. culture, but research presented in a new paper by psychologists at <a href="http://news-service.stanford.edu/pr/2008/pr-eber-021308.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Stanford</a>, Pennsylvania State University and the University of California-Berkeley reveals that many Americans subconsciously associate blacks with apes.</p> <p>In addition, the findings show that society is more likely to condone violence against black <span class="IL_AD">criminal</span> suspects as a result of its broader inability to accept African Americans as fully human, according to the researchers.</p> <p>Co-author Jennifer Eberhardt, a Stanford associate professor of psychology who is black, said she was shocked by the results, particularly since they involved subjects born after Jim Crow and the civil rights movement. “This was actually some of the most depressing work I have done,” she said. “This shook me up. You have suspicions when you do the work—intuitions—you have a hunch. But it was hard to prepare for how strong [the black-ape association] was—how we were able to pick it up every time.”</p> <p>The paper, “Not Yet Human: Implicit Knowledge, Historical Dehumanization and Contemporary Consequences,” is the result of a series of six previously unpublished studies conducted by Eberhardt, Pennsylvania State University psychologist Phillip Atiba Goff (the lead author and a former student of Eberhardt’s) and Matthew C. Jackson and Melissa J. Williams, graduate students at Penn State and Berkeley, respectively. The paper is <span class="IL_AD">scheduled</span> to appear Feb. 7 in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, which is published by the American Psychological Association.</p> <p>The research took place over six years at Stanford and Penn State under Eberhardt’s supervision. It involved mostly white male undergraduates. In a series of studies that subliminally flashed black or white male faces on a screen for a fraction of a second to “prime” the students, researchers found subjects could identify blurry ape drawings much faster after they were primed with black faces than with white faces. The researchers consistently discovered a black-ape association even if the young adults said they knew nothing about its historical connotations. The connection was made only with African American faces; the paper’s third study failed to find an ape association with other non-white groups, such as Asians. Despite such race-specific findings, the researchers stressed that dehumanization and animal imagery have been used for centuries to justify violence against many oppressed groups.</p> <p>“Despite widespread opposition to racism, bias remains with us,” Eberhardt said. “African Americans are still dehumanized; we’re still associated with apes in this country. That association can lead people to endorse the beating of black suspects by police officers, and I think it has lots of other consequences that we have yet to uncover.”</p> <p>Scientific racism in the United States was graphically promoted in a mid-19th-century book by Josiah C. Nott and George Robins Gliddon titled Types of Mankind, which used misleading illustrations to suggest that “Negroes” ranked between “Greeks” and chimpanzees. “When we have a history like that in this country, I don’t know how much of that goes away completely, especially to the extent that we are still dealing with severe racial inequality, which fuels and maintains those associations in ways that people are unaware,” Eberhardt said.</p> <p>&lt;!-- Easy AdSense V2.99 --&gt;&lt;!-- Post[count: 2] --&gt;<br /> <div style="margin: 12px; float: left;"><span> </span></div><br /> &lt;!-- Easy AdSense V2.99 --&gt;</p> <p>Although such grotesque characterizations of African Americans have largely disappeared from mainstream U.S. society, Eberhardt noted that science education could be partly responsible for reinforcing the view that blacks are less evolved than whites. An iconic 1970 illustration, “March of Progress,” published in the Time-Life book Early Man, depicts evolution beginning with a chimpanzee and ending with a white man. “It’s a legacy of our past that the endpoint of evolution is a white man,” Eberhardt said. “I don’t think it’s intentional, but when people learn about human evolution, they walk away with a notion that people of African descent are closer to apes than people of European descent. When people think of a civilized person, a white man comes to mind.”<br />Consequences of socially endorsed violence</p> <p>In the paper’s fifth study, the researchers subliminally primed 115 white male undergraduates with words associated with either apes (such as “monkey,” “chimp,” “gorilla”) or big cats (such as “lion,” “tiger,” “panther”). The latter was used as a control because both images are associated with violence and Africa, Eberhardt said. The subjects then watched a two-minute <span class="IL_AD">video clip</span>, similar to the television program COPS, depicting several police officers violently beating a man of undetermined race. A <span class="IL_AD">mugshot</span> of either a white or a black man was shown at the beginning of the clip to indicate who was being beaten, with a description conveying that, although described by his family as “a loving husband and father,” the suspect had a serious <span class="IL_AD">criminal record</span> and may have been high on drugs at the time of his arrest.</p> <p>The students were then asked to rate how justified the beating was. Participants who believed the suspect was white were no more likely to condone the beating when they were primed with either ape or big cat words, Eberhardt said. But those who thought the suspect was black were more likely to justify the beating if they had been primed with ape words than with big cat words. “Taken together, this suggests that implicit knowledge of a Black-ape association led to marked differences in participants’ judgments of Black criminal suspects,” the researchers write.</p> <p>According to the paper’s authors, <span class="IL_AD">this link</span> has devastating consequences for African Americans because it “alters visual perception and attention, and it increases endorsement of violence against black suspects.” For example, the paper’s sixth study showed that in hundreds of news stories from 1979 to 1999 in the Philadelphia Inquirer, African Americans convicted of capital crimes were about four times more likely than whites convicted of capital crimes to be described with ape-relevant language, such as “barbaric,” “beast,” “brute,” “savage” and “wild.” “Those who are implicitly portrayed as more ape-like in these articles are more likely to be executed by the state than those who are not,” the researchers write.<br />The way forward</p> <p>Despite the paper’s findings, Eberhardt said she is optimistic about the future. “This work isn’t arguing that there hasn’t been any progress made or that we are living in the same society that existed in the 19th century,” she said. “We have made a lot of progress on race issues, but we should recognize that racial bias isn’t dead. We still need to be aware of that and aware of all the different ways [racism] can affect us, despite our intentions and motivations to be egalitarian. We still have work to do.”</p> <p>For Eberhardt, two stories of race exist <span class="IL_AD">in America</span>. “One is about the disappearance of bias—that it’s no longer with us,” she said. “But the other is about the transformation of bias. It’s not the egregious bias anymore, but it’s modern bias, subtle bias.” With both of these stories, she said, there is an understanding that society has moved beyond the historic battles centered around race. “We want to argue, with this work, that there is one old race battle that we’re still fighting,” she said. “That is the battle for blacks to be recognized as fully human.”</p> <p><a href="http://scienceblog.com/cms/americans-still-linking-blacks-apes-15428.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblog.com/cms/americans-still-linking-blacks-apes-15428.html</a></p>