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GrateWire » Topic: CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR...... http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far News & Opinion - Grated Fresh Daily en-US Fri, 24 May 2013 05:07:37 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://gratewire.com/search.php Anonymous on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-26142 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:00:46 +0000 Anonymous 26142@http://gratewire.com/ He backs up everything he says and pays out of pocket for his own researchers. <div></div> <div><img height="28px" src="http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video/2011/february/files/IMG_23.jpg" width="359px" /></div> 2/1/11- <a href="http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video/2011/february/glenn-beck-show-february-1-2011-the-muslim-brotherhood/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Muslim Brotherhood </a>2/2/11- <a href="http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video/2011/february/glenn-beck-show-february-2-2011-eric-bolling-in-for-beck/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Bolling in for Beck </a>2/3/11- <a href="http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video/2011/february/glenn-beck-show-february-3-2011-violence-erupts-in-egypt/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Violence Erupts in Egypt </a>2/4/11- <a href="http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video/2011/february/glenn-beck-show-februrary-4-2011-solutions-for-the-middle-east" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Solutions for the Middle East </a>2/7/11- <a href="http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video/2011/february/glenn-beck-show-february-7-2011-muslim-brotherhood-in-their-own-words/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Muslim Brotherhood: In Their Own Words </a>2/8/11- <a href="http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video/2011/february/glenn-beck-show-february-8-2011-whos-been-right-do-your-own-homework/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Who's Been Right? 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Democracy </a>2/22/11- <a href="http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video/2011/february/glenn-beck-show-february-22-2011-protests-and-rising-oil-prices/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Protests and Rising Oil Prices </a>2/23/11- <a href="http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video/2011/february/glenn-beck-show-february-23-2011-richard-trumpka-and-the-white-house/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Richard Trumpka and The White House </a>2/24/11- <a href="http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video/2011/february/glenn-beck-show-february-24-2011-van-jones-and-the-american-dream/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Van Jones and the American Dream</a> Obot 50549535 on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-26077 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:57:18 +0000 Obot 50549535 26077@http://gratewire.com/ Wikipedia has a good article on fascism. Here's my comments. Fascism is of course a dirty word in this country, and rightly so. When you put it all together, it is so contrary to any kind of American political thought that it's really nonsense to call American right-wingers or left-wingers fascists. Of couse, instead of putting it all together, you can pick out bits and pieces that bear some resemblence to the left or the right, and use them to justify this nonsense. But if you really look at what the actual fascists of the early 20th century were advocating, I doubt you could find one in a million people in this country who would touch it. Annie on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-26076 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:42:01 +0000 Annie 26076@http://gratewire.com/ Obot, I'm waiting for QT to provide such a definition. Let's be patient. :-) Obot 50549535 on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-26073 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:35:28 +0000 Obot 50549535 26073@http://gratewire.com/ I think we all need to go look up the word "fascist." Chareese on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-26071 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:33:38 +0000 Chareese 26071@http://gratewire.com/ omiaqt, You are the fascist, and it comes through loud and clear in EVERY comment you make! Annie on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-26070 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:30:23 +0000 Annie 26070@http://gratewire.com/ QT, explain how a liberal is a fascist. This, I can't wait to read! omiaqt on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-26067 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:27:44 +0000 omiaqt 26067@http://gratewire.com/ If you liberal/fascist don't like him....why do you spend so much time watching him? Since this is the first item he has gotten wrong...I would say his research team is quite good...but of course you liberal/fascist's goal is to silence him and any speech that disagrees with your point of view??? You liberal/fascist are truly pathetic and hypocritical. Obot 50549535 on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-26063 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 04:56:54 +0000 Obot 50549535 26063@http://gratewire.com/ Lot of generalizations here, leaving me wondering if you have any facts to back any of this up. Can you name some conspiracies and explain what backs your claim that they were tolerated by "libs"? And you might be interested to know that the prominent leftist site DailyKos has a zero-tolerance policy toward conspiracy theories, that was put in place I think about 6-7 years ago. Any pushing a conspiracy theory there is immediately and permanently banned. Roxiebell on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-26061 Fri, 25 Feb 2011 04:51:24 +0000 Roxiebell 26061@http://gratewire.com/ Libs only tolerate a conspiracy if its against the USA, Republicans, conservatives, Christians, the Military, GWB, or VP Cheney. Americans were harrassed during the entire previous Administration with automatic weapon like "rapid-fire" BAM-BAM-BAM with one conspiracy theory ATTACK after another to the point of absolute chaos and confusion by election time. Now that the tide has turned against libs and they realize people are not "as dumb" as they thought, they want to END conspiracy theories and they want "civility"! All the while spinning their leftist wheels to "pin" something on Gov. Walker during the fraud phone call and they remain as "uncivil" as it gets. Once again I have to point that its the vicous & vile cycle of the left that will never end until we marginalize them "back" to the PNL fringe of society & OUT of politics and positions of power. SheShe on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25959 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:56:47 +0000 SheShe 25959@http://gratewire.com/ Annie, I am glad you are still friendly with your brother-in-law and can shut him down with facts. I am sure that your sister appreciates that too. The truthers are just as looney as the birthers in my opinion. Chareese on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25895 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:15:09 +0000 Chareese 25895@http://gratewire.com/ evie, Who knows? evzone on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25884 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:54:18 +0000 evzone 25884@http://gratewire.com/ I just got logged out but I logged myself back in - I'm asking this again - Suppose a Republican president is elected in 2012 - we can assume the birther issue gets put to bed once he shows the long form, right? SqueekyFromm on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25876 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:25:45 +0000 SqueekyFromm 25876@http://gratewire.com/ Annie: I have already addressed the "Obama doesn't have to do anything" with an Internet Article: <a href="http://squeekyfromm.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/the-illogical-obot-on-obamas-legal-responsibility/" rel="nofollow">http://squeekyfromm.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/the-illogical-obot-on-obamas-legal-responsibility/</a> I guess I need to re-post it. Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter evzone on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25874 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:21:38 +0000 evzone 25874@http://gratewire.com/ Suppose a Republican president is elected in 2012 - scary thought for the Dems but it could happen - and that president decides to show this long form - no more birthers, right? evzone on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25873 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:21:38 +0000 evzone 25873@http://gratewire.com/ Suppose a Republican president is elected in 2012 - scary thought for the Dems but it could happen - and that president decides to show this long form - no more birthers, right? Chareese on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25871 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:14:50 +0000 Chareese 25871@http://gratewire.com/ evie, Brace yourself......it's true! evzone on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25869 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:11:06 +0000 evzone 25869@http://gratewire.com/ Annie: "Ten years from now, the birthers will still be around, as resolute as ever and as seriously imbalanced as ever. Oh, Lawdie, we have to live with this for another ten years, Annie, say it isn't so! Chareese on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25867 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:08:14 +0000 Chareese 25867@http://gratewire.com/ BB, LOL.....good comparison! Beach Baby on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25866 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:07:10 +0000 Beach Baby 25866@http://gratewire.com/ A perfect example of Glenn Beck - is Muammar Gaddafi. Neither of them makes any sense and yet they lead an enormous amount of people astray. Annie on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25864 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:01:00 +0000 Annie 25864@http://gratewire.com/ Hi, dear Squeekers. President Obama doesn't have to "cough up" anything for you, or anyone else. Hawaii certified his birth and he has a legal US passport. End of story, sweetheart. SqueekyFromm on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25863 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:58:27 +0000 SqueekyFromm 25863@http://gratewire.com/ Annie, C'mon. Be honest. Tell me that you really truly don't think there is anything weird about Obama not coughing up his long form for three years. You think he is a American, so what possible good reasons could he have??? Divisiveness??? Political gain??? Or, are you one of the elitists who think that ALL the suspicious Americans are way too stupid to believe a long form. This is where a really stupid issue like Birtherism can reveal soooo much about people's attitudes about life. Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter Annie on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25824 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:46:22 +0000 Annie 25824@http://gratewire.com/ Excellent question, Obot. He never refers to his hypotheticals as a conspiracy but rather he's an oracle of the truth and the rest of us are dumb mother...... because we can't see reality. My sister walks a fine line, trying to support her husband but pointing out to him that he's lost friends and clients due his far out theories. To be honest, he listens to a lot of really left, left, left wing, radio shows which I believe helped form and alter his views. (Sounds familiar al la Glenn Beck?) My brother-in-law has seen ten years go by since 9/11 and his theories haven't advanced in any way, let alone, gained any traction. Yet, he remains resolute, if not viewed by others as someone sad, if not pathetic. My brother-in-law has always gravitated to the fringe and finds himself even more marginalized as he continues to spout his Truther BS. Recently, he's stopped discussing the issue but I have no doubt, he'll be onto his latest conspiracy theory. Next up, NWO! I tell, ya, the ability of some folks to buy into conspiracy theories has some genetic component. Ten years from now, the birthers will still be around, as resolute as ever and as seriously imbalanced as ever. Obot 50549535 on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25820 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:33:18 +0000 Obot 50549535 25820@http://gratewire.com/ Annie -- I've noticed that in the last decade or so it's become more common to see people pushing conspiracy theories while avoiding the word "conspiracy." For example, birthers often ascribe the lack of support for their theory among pretty much every GOP elected official as being due to threats or bribes from "them", but they rarely use the word "conspiracy." So I'm curious -- does your brother-in-law talk about a conspiracy, or is he avoiding the C word? Annie on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25812 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:12:30 +0000 Annie 25812@http://gratewire.com/ Ad I've written time and again, my brother-in-law is a truther, even though he's lost numerous friends over his wacko beliefs and the only reason I speak to him is that I love my sister and we live less a block away from each other. He buys into a political world view that is divorced from reality but in every other way he functions. Dayum, it's very confusing. On top of that, he's one hell of a nice guy, if not a bit "touched". But, if he brings up the truther bs, as Bumpy would say: "I shut him down with facts." He still doesn't listen which makes his love for this conspiracy theory very interesting. I'm not sure what drives him. It does help me appreciate the right and their craziness. :-) Chareese on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25809 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:10:16 +0000 Chareese 25809@http://gratewire.com/ Here's a comment on this article that sums it up beautifully...... <ul> <li> <div> <div> Armageddon T Thunderbird </div> <div> February 24, 2011</div> </div> </li> <li></li> <li> <div> <div> </div> <div> Glenn Beck is the personal front man for stupidity on a national scale in The United States of America. He is and always was a complete idiot. His personal form of patriotism is false and you’d have to be a brainless, half educated, red necked idiot to believe anything this fool says. But that pretty well describes the tea party and the GOP. This closet homosexual never went to college and he knows nothing about World History, American History, World Religions or the US Constitution. He is simply a mocking bird for the twisted views of the John Birch Society and people need to wake up to the fact that Glenn Beck is just another uneducated charlatan who does not possess a single ounce of journalistic integrity. He is definitely not a conservative. In short, he is just another opinion pusher which is why he blends in so well with the bigots on Fox News Network. This self important racist climbed in bed with Satan a very long time ago as lies, half truths, fear and hate are his only products that he has for sale and he is making big money off of impressionable fools who love being told what to think. Glenn Beck is simply a product of mormon cult theology that he mixes with cherry picked parts of Catholicism, New Age Religions and his personal core as a washed up, dry alcoholic. Those really are his only qualifications for anything in this world. This makes Glenn Beck one very screwed up moron who sold his soul to the lowest common denominator of personal stupidity. And for the record…the religion of Islam has far more in common with Christianity than the mormon cult. Beck consistently demonstrates all the unstable behaviors of a dry alcoholic which include grandiosity, judgmentalism, intolerance, impulsivity, ADD, indecisiveness and blindness to truth. In short, Beck, Limbaugh, O Reilly, Hannity, Palin, O Donnell, Coulter and others like them who think they are conservative are all guilty of perverting truth, history, facts, religion and the US Constitution when they open their big mouths. They are all idiots who live in and speak to some alternate universe of stupid red necks that feed off of fear & hate mongering and love being fed a steady dose of extreme right wing lies. It is a breath of fresh air to finally see studies proving that Fox news viewers really are the most gullible and misinformed people on the planet. </div> </div> </li> <li>(-:</li> </ul> Chareese on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25808 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:07:21 +0000 Chareese 25808@http://gratewire.com/ <h2>real conspiracies are uncovered through real research, through the uncovering of facts that inexplicably lead to the truth......</h2> Annie on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25807 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:06:01 +0000 Annie 25807@http://gratewire.com/ Audio: Glenn Beck apologizes for trashing Reform Jews. Well, kinda. Chareese on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25806 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:05:39 +0000 Chareese 25806@http://gratewire.com/ Annie, Glennie doesn't know how to apologize or do anything with class because he is a classless act (rodeo clown). He is as big a JOKE as Palin, and neither have an ounce of sincerity between them. SLF on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25804 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:59:48 +0000 SLF 25804@http://gratewire.com/ Let the games begin (rather, continue). Kristol, Kristol, Kristol! Annie on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25803 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:57:06 +0000 Annie 25803@http://gratewire.com/ Chareese, did you see that Glennie apologized for slandering Reform Jews? It was a piss poor apology. Who in the hell does his research? He's a total joke. Plus, I agree (for once with Kristol) “Hysteria is not a sign of health … nor is it a sign of health when American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with a dictator against the Democrats,” Kristol said. Chareese on "CONSPIRACIES THEORIES HAVE GONE TO FAR......" http://gratewire.com/topic/conspiracies-theories-have-gone-to-far#post-25801 Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:53:41 +0000 Chareese 25801@http://gratewire.com/ Everyone loves a good conspiracy theory. The paranoid rhetoric of a myriad of “theorists” has entertained Americans for years with stories of shadowy government operations that are slowly nipping away at our freedom bit by bit. Fox News personality Glenn Beck has become famous through the years for uncovering his own wild conspiracy theories, his latest involves the overthrow of corrupt Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak. Beck claims that the recent revolutions in the Middle East were organized and funded by radical Islam, communists and American leftist organizations to start a movement to enslave the entire world in an oppressive, unified dictatorship, called a caliphate. As always, Beck backs up his statements with chalky diagrams and invites viewers to do their own research and find the truth for themselves. For Beck and other conspiracy theorists, however, the “truth” is a loose pairing of facts by flimsy coincidences. Put under a rational minded magnifying glass, most conspiracies fall to pieces. To Beck’s credit, one of the legitimate concerns many have over Egypt’s revolution is that the country will fall prey to a radical Islamist takeover, leading to a theocratic government like in Iran or Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately, Beck’s underhand motives to destroy the American left become clear when he links the threat to a conspiracy by American leftist organizations and the popular search engine Google. What’s next? Will President Obama and a reincarnated Adolf Hitler join forces in an effort to enthrone Alice Cooper as our new supreme overlord? I’m sure we can find out next week on the Glenn Beck Program. It’s certainly hard to fault Beck for his creativity, but real conspiracies are uncovered through real research, through the uncovering of facts that inexplicably lead to the truth. The Watergate scandal in the 1970s is one of the best examples of this. Even so, under one of the most powerful executive branches in American history, President Nixon was unable to cover up a simple burglary in a Washington hotel. Nowadays, covering up a conspiracy is even more difficult. With the recent popularity of whistleblower groups like WikiLeaks, it becomes quite clear that our government is hardly capable of blowing its nose without someone noticing, much less organizing a conspiracy. Beck’s wild ranting on Egypt has even drawn criticism from fellow conservatives and Fox News colleagues who are beginning to distance themselves from Beck’s increasingly outrageous claims of the coming “communist revolution.” William Kristol, a frequent conservative commentator on Fox News and the editor of the Weekly Standard, criticized Beck for instilling irrational fear in his viewers. “Hysteria is not a sign of health … nor is it a sign of health when American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with a dictator against the Democrats,” Kristol said. Beck has always hidden behind his excuse that he is simply asking questions. And there’s nothing wrong with that. Perhaps one of the most important aspects of living a free country, is having the ability (and the desire) to question your government. No, there is no such thing as a stupid question. Only stupid people who ask questions. <a href="http://www.thenorthwindonline.com/?p=3860310" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">SOURCE</a>